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Sunday, June 17, 2007

ENGLISH-ITALIAN BOARD


ABOUT MY ENGLISH-ITALIAN BOARD
Is this board going to an end? Yeah... I think I have to try to restart it... could that work? I’m very perplexed... as I can see many readers come from USA... perhaps over 30-40% We are on Ask.com and have a lot of links on Google... nevertheless our posting range is decreasing more and more... Good, right, summer is going to bring a lot of people elsewhere... and boards like this, a typical winter-affair, must wait till September when internet activity usually springs... But I’ll continue trying to post here in English, no matter if someone will post back... I think it’s impossible to find new users, or to ask old users for more posting here. The rule of something public is only the public interest. People are always leading public boards... If you’d catch a lot or users or readers, you only have to build something following the rule of public interest... and this board is a very strange being. I’d be out of the habit of complaining about this forum’s dying down... but, if I really like this little board as I really do, I have at least to complain. I’d like better this board well crowded ... I’m aware that it’s but a wish!
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Thursday, May 03, 2007

English and Italian proverbs about devil




ENGLISH AND ITALIAN PROVERBS ABOUT DEVIL




ENGLISH PROVERBS




Devil: an evil being, often represented in human form but with a tail and horns.


INFORMAL someone, especially a child, who behaves badly: Those little/young devils broke my window. Quei diavoletti mi hanno
rotto la finestra.



INFORMAL HUMOROUS a person who enjoys doing things people might disapprove of. "I'm going to wear a short black skirt and thigh-length boots." "Ooh, you devil!". Have another slice of cake - go on, be a devil!

INFORMAL used with an adjective to describe someone and express your opinion about something that has happened to them:

I hear you've got a new car, you lucky devil! Ho sento che hai preso una macchina nuova, sei un diavolo fortunato.

He's been ill for weeks, poor devil. E' stato malato per settimane, povero diavolo.

Devilment (devilry) Diavoleria behaviour that causes trouble but is usually intended to be playful or amusing: He's up to some kind of devilment again, I'll be bound. Si sta di nuovo combinando qualche diavoleria, ne sono certo.

Devilishly: Diabolicamente. That's a devilishly difficult question. E' una questione diabolicamente difficile

Devil-may-care
(se ne può impicciare il diavolo) not worrying or caring about the results of your actions: He has a rather devil-may-care attitude to his studies. Non ha assolutamente interesse ai suoi studi.

She-devil: Una diavolessa; a woman who is considered to be dangerous or evil

Better the devil you know (than the devil you don't). UK SAYING. Meglio il diavolo che conoci di quello che non conosci. said when you think it
is wiser to deal with someone familiar, although you do not like them, than to
deal with someone who you do not know, who might be worse.


Go to the devil OLD-FASHIONED, Andare (vai) al diavolo. something you say to someone annoying or bad to tell them to go away forever.

Speak/talk of the devil. Parli del diavolo... something you say when the person you were talking about appears unexpectedly:Did you hear what happened to Anna yesterday - oh, speak of the devil, here she is. Hai sentito che è successo ad Anna ieri? - oh, parli del diavolo... eccola.

What/where/how/why the devil OLD-FASHIONED INFORMALChe / dove / come / perché diavolo used to give emphasis to a
question:
What the devil are you doing? Che diavolo stai facendo?
Where the devil have you been? Dove diavolo sei stato?

Be between the devil and the deep blue sea. Stare tra il diavolo e il profondo mare blu. to have two choices but both of them are equally unpleasant or inconvenient.

(to) give the devil his due. Dare al diavolo quanto gli spetta said when you admit that someone you do not like or admire does have particular good qualities: I don't like the man but - give the devil his due - he works incredibly hard. Quell'uomo non mi piace ma - diamo al diavolo quanto gli
spetta - lavora in modo incredibilmente intenso.


The devil finds work for idle hands. SAYING Il diavolo trova il lavoro per mani non occupate. said to show that you believe people who have nothing to do are more likely to get into trouble or commit a crime.



ITALIAN PROVERBS



Avere un diavolo per capello = To have a devil each hair (be like a real bear, be irritable)

Avere una paura del diavolo = Be very dreaded


Fare l'avvocato del diavolo = Be the devil's advocate


Essere un buon diavolo
= Be a good person

Saperne una più del diavolo = To know a thing beyond the devil. To know a thing or two. To know always how to deal with everything.



La farina del diavolo va sempre in crusca = The devil's flour ends always in bran. Bad actions don't pay at all.


Se il diavolo ci mette la coda = if the devil puts his tail in (if things start to go badly because of something unexpected)



Il diavolo fa le pentole ma non i coperchi = the devil make pots but doesn't make lids. (you can do something bad but you can't hide it)


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Tuesday, May 01, 2007

ITALIAN PROVERBS


Today’s Italian proverbs



1) A caval donato con si guarda in bocca = You shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

caval donato = gift horse, something you got but didn’t deserve. guardare in bocca al cavallo = look in the mouth of the horse (because you can see how the horse is old looking his teeth. You are allowed to do such a thing when you are going to buy an horse, but you aren’t allowed when you got the horse as a gift). 2) Chi entra papa in conclave esce cardinale = Who goes pope in conclave comes out cardinal. Said to worn people not to be too much trustful in something that couldn’t happen.

3) Chi troppo in alto sal cade sovente precipitevolissimevolmente (Ludovico Ariosto 1474-1533) = Who goes up too much usualy falls down very quickly. Cardinal Ippolito d'Este, took the young poet under his patronage and appointed him one of the gentlemen of his household. Este compensated Ariosto poorly for his efforts. The only reward he gave the poet for Orlando Furioso, a piece dedicated to him, was the question, "Where did you find so many stupid stories, Master Ludovic?"

4) Chi va al mulino si infarina = Who goes to the flour mill gets floured.

5) Nel paese dei ciechi anche un guercio è re = In the country of blinds, the one who has a single eye is a king.

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Monday, April 30, 2007

ENGLISH ITALIAN STORIES ABOUT BEING TWO

INDEX of my stories about "BEING TWO"
(seven of them with English transalation: n. 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 68, 72)
INDICE delle "STORIE DI ESSERE IN DUE"


1 - Roberta : una fuga verso la libertà http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!332.entry
2 - Emma : una scoperta importante http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!336.entry
3 - Due pagine di diario : strani tradimenti http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!349.entry
4 - Dolores e Letizia : una famiglia http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!351.entry
5 - Dolores e Guido : incontri in albergo http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!352.entry
6 - Mici e luna piena : non essere in due http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!354.entry
7 - Solidarietà : lontano e vicino http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!362.entry
8 - Frammenti di un discorso amoroso : spirito romanesco http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!365.entry
9 - Paolo e Francesca : lucciole e lanterne http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!371.entry
10 - Fabrizio per sempre : adesso capisco http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!374.entry
11 - Una Signora : generazioni http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!378.entry
12 - Meglio soli... : il catorcio http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!380.entry
13 - Fuori dal coro : da blog a blog http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!386.entry
14 - Mezze cartucce : relitti http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!390.entry
15 - Una storia assurda : monogamia http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!391.entry
16 - Il Maestro e Lia : prove di scena http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!392.entry
17 - Nu Bravo guaglione : era il 30 http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!393.entry
18 - A ricreazione : conti e osti http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!394.entry
19 - Ritrovarsi : fedeltà e infedeltà http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!395.entry
20 - Partenze: sto aspettando http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!411.entry
21 - Controcorrente : vite d'artista http://esserein2.spaces.msn.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!421.entry
22 - Milano 1851 : una scelta difficile http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!424.entry
23 - Triangolo BDH : l'altro lato http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!426.entry
24 - Storia d'Amore : resistere http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!430.entry
25 - La gattara : la Eco-gattara http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!432.entry
26 - Figlio di separati : questioni legali http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!442.entry
27 - Poco importante : due più uno http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!449.entry
28 - Cena di lavoro : deboli e forti http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!451.entry
29 - In che senso? : tentennamenti http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!453.entry
30 - Enzo e Carmelina : ti ricordi... http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!456.entry
31 - Noi e gli altri : dialogo http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!459.entry
32 - E che vuoi fare : piano piano http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!462.entry
33 - Muro di gomma : noi due soli http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!465.entry
34 - A mia moglie : non ero innamorato http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!467.entry
35 - Se serve : poi ho capito http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!473.entry
36 - Il farfallone : peperoncino http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!475.entry
37 - Il lupo - basta! http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!477.entry
38 - Proviamoci - chiamala http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!483.entry
39 - Nonni e nipotini - pensionati e pensionandi http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!486.entry
40 - Mutuo soccorso - camomilla e musica http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!488.entry
41 - Vecchia Milano - lavorare http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!490.entry
42 - Top secret - il Fantasma http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!492.entry
43 - Matrimonio al tramonto - dovere e piacere http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!494.entry
44 - A Bottega - famo le serate http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!500.entry
45 - Apro io - papale papale http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!502.entry
46 - Amiche - sei sicura? http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!504.entry
47 - Natale - perché no? http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!507.entry
48 - I remember - Io ricordo - Absurd war - Guerra assurda (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!511.entry
49- To marry - Sposarsi - The lady and the servant - La signora e la serva (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!513.entry
50 - Private question - Questione privata - Flight to Philadelphia - Volo per Filadelfia (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!515.entry
51 - The girlfriend - La fidanzata - Restart - Ricominciare (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!517.entry
52 - My husband - Mio marito - Not so bad - Non c'è male (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!521.entry
53 - Diario di Marlene - 30/9/1937 http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!535.entry
54 - San Valentino - Secondo posto http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!551.entry
55 - Ex - Tu non lo sai http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!558.entry
56 - Il signor X - Impiegati e pubblico http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!584.entry
57 - Martedì grasso - Io no! http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!591.entry
58 - Vecchi amici - Non è gran che http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!600.entry
59 - Perdere il treno - All'ultimo momento http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!603.entry
60 - Qualcosa da scoprire - Ricercatori http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!611.entry
61 - Pensaci Carmelina - Vecchi e amici http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!617.entry
62 - Maschietti e femminucce - Sono tutti uguali! http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!620.entry
63 - Una donna per amico - Va bene così http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!624.entry
64 - La vita e ... - Fasi http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!626.entry
65 - Erasmus - Mi fa ridere http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!629.entry
66 - Marziani - Tertii e Quartii http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!658.entry
67 - I piedi in testa - Scherzi telefonici http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!660.entry
68 - Friends and lovers - Amici e amanti - Everything to accept - Tutto da accettare (In English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!669.entry
69 - La luce del sole - Rispetto http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!688.entry
70 - Figli niente - Una vita http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!695.entry
71 - Codici e manuali - Giovani marmotte http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!699.entry
72 - Optimism - Ottimismo - Before and after - Prima e dopo (in English and in Italian) http://esserein2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D0422B323B467F33!701.entry

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OPTIMISM - OTTIMISMO


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il testo italiano si trova in fondo al post
OPTIMISM
April 2005
- Carefully, or at least quite carefully... never let people know too much... to avoid harsh, unpleasant, unkind, cruel or simply unnecessary criticism... People aren’t really interested in you but in chatting about you, just to judge you... people aren’t interested, they are nosy, smiling but nosy... They don’t aim to listen to you but to label you, to range you, and to be labelled means be targeted, and undergo an harsh criticism, targeted specifically at you, it isn’t matter of being brave or of being proud...
- But why are you so cruel against people? ... How many potential friends could I find among them? ... and all my friends... didn’t I find them among the people? People aren’t finally so bad as you like picture them... I’m an optimist... perhaps too much an optimist... but I think that without people... life is even worst... we can also talk about people among ourselves for a while, it could be useful... but real people is much more interesting... what do you think about getting a smile that someone flashes to you? ... Sometimes I got such flashing smiles... and it was non so bad... why would I be afraid to say what I think? ... I think they would never damage me... what do they could gain from such a thing? I think people is much better abroad than here in that old town, where nothing happens.... never... When I was in Paris... What a wonderful life! Paris is life, light, love... everything... I’m always looking forward I’m definitely a forward-looking... and I’m looking forward to going back to Paris... my dream-town... culture, music, love, friends, freedom ... what a beautiful city...
- Would you like to go back to Paris just now?
- No... I have something to fulfil, I’d rather go in August... and you can take it for granted... I’ll never go back home... étudiant al Sorbonne, vivre ma liberté sans aucun regret... But you aren’t able to understand... isn’t it ?
- Not exactly... perhaps you could also be right... I know very well... I think that life is yours and you have to, perhaps you must, choose whatever you like, you must live the way you like, at least to avoid regrets... I don’t tell you that you have to delay you life till another time... my God!... no!... it could be a terrible choice... only be careful... that’s all... You have your friends over there... very good... friends are friends, but people aren’t friends...
- You’re right to warn me against people... but, you know it very well, there is something that warns me every time... it’s the reason for suspects on people surrounding me, and it's also the reason of my love for my friends. Don’t worry my optimism is hold back by my brain...
- Yeah... really... I think you are right, and finally you’re not so much an optimist as you like to look.
August 2006
- I’m so glad to see you back home... how are you?
- Very good and you?
- Quite well... can’t complain... but you’re perfectly in shape... It’s the air of Paris, isn’t it? When have you to get back there?
- Just at the beginning of October... I have my time to spend here... then I have to get back... Paris is a big city... but sometimes when I’m there I feel sad, inadequate, lonely, betrayed by everyone... yes there are friends... but perhaps I had dreamed a lot about them but they didn’t do the same... We go for a pizza on the Saturday evening, we chat a lot but about nothing, we are friends but everyone keeps going on his own way... this one is going to become a doctor and speaks only about hospitals and nurses, that one is going to became an building engineer and speaks only about buildings, bridges, roofs, reinforced concrete... and so on... and I? What could I speak about? Yes, economics, stock exchange, industrial shares end so on, perhaps also about music... but they aren’t used to listen to my music, the like only their music, and then what else? ... Yes poetry, songs and so on... but they like different books, different poems... each one keeps going only thinking about himself... perhaps I do the same, but I would never have realized that... what does it mean the word “friends”? Which is the difference between friends and people? I think that if there is any difference it’s not a big difference. I’d like to find something else... but what have I to tell you? Nothing here, nothing neither over there... Paris is only Paris not heaven... Can I ask you something?
- Whatever you like...
- Why didn’t you send me a letter? ... no... no letters, no MSN calls, not even an e-mail... we where friends don’t you remember?
- No, you are wrong, not we were but we are friends... But what would I have done? ... you too knew that we are friends... that’s all...
- Good, right... no answer... ok... my fault... I wouldn’t have asked... sorry... Well... better I tray to change topic... What did you do all this time long?
- Nothing important... really...
- Yeah... but how did you spend your time: working? reading? travelling? what else?
- Waiting... just waiting...
- And waiting what for? ... oh... perhaps I understand... mh... at least you don’t waste words... and the real life?
- Quite good... nothing to complain about...
- You aren’t very loquacious...
- No... but really I kept on doing the same things, nothing to talk about...
- And what did you think about?
- Another question to bypass...
- Problems? Something doesn’t work fine? Health problems?
- No, really not big problems, just little things, nothing to worry about...
- And what else?
- You are very nosy! I’ll keep it to myself! ... And what did you do in Paris? Have you been studying hard or what else?
- No... another question to skip... what a wonderful conversation...
- Can I ask you another question?
- Of course...
- Are you happy?
- Terrible... happy?... what a strange word... I think I need something else, it’s not a matter of Paris or whatever... sometimes you feel better but sometimes you feel terrible... Paris was a good dream when I was here but to come back here was a dream when a was in Paris... yeah... studying, working hard, books, everything help to keep the bad thoughts away... but to be happy is a very different thing... you could never be happy being alone... even when you have a lot of friends... do you understand?
- Yeah... you’re right... as usually, you’re right... I would ask another question but it’s too much private...
- What about?
- About love...
- Love... mh... do you think it really exists? ... I’m very perplexed... can you love yourself and love someone else at the same time? Is it possible to put together love and strength to build a professional future? ... Love and art? Love and music? To fall in love your soul must be free and you must cast aside all your projects, get rid of yourself... is it possible?
- Big problem indeed...
- What do you think about?
- I think love is possible...
- Really?
-Yes really... probably not what you can read in novels... no, something much simpler...
- But you must find someone who could live with you... who would like to live with you... love without living together doesn’t even exist...
- Perhaps... but I think it could exist all the same... clearly something different from the classical model of love... something according to your own model of love not to the general one...
- But it would be something weakest, not strong enough to work... The probability that such a love could really exist is fairly weak... Perhaps if I had been seeing someone over a year now... it could be love... love need presence...
- Probably...
- And you? What about love?
- Nothing you don’t know yet...
- Yeah... you’re right... love... what a strange word... perhaps I have a lot to learn about love... Can I really experiment something that is really love? Or I’ll only pretend to see somewhere love flashes in order to feel alive? Could I only pretend to play a role that involves something similar to love, just to keep away from loneliness and desperation? … Is there any difference, on the side of the beloved person, between loving and pretending to love? Love isn’t something emotional, love is a duty, something that consists in acting like you where in love… is there any difference between loving and acting like you where loving someone? And really I think there isn’t any difference at all… if loving consists in doing everything with enthusiasm and participation in order to let someone feel beloved … and acting like you where loving someone consists in doing exactly the same things because of duty…
- Yeah… perhaps it’s true… I’m confused, I don’t know what to say… it seams to me a little strange... no… nothing strange… love isn’t strange… or love is always strange… I don’t know... but it’s very hard to know what love is.
- I don’t know what to say... I’m really perplexed... probably you are right or I can’t even feel something similar to love... because I’m too much deep in my thoughts... too much selfish... I’m pretending that I could love someone but perhaps I’m very far from all this... I thought it also by myself... in Paris... well... and then? What to do next? ... so are things... good... I only have to accept... I can’t change anything.
- I think you can... something at least... certainly you can...
- I don’t understand... is there something I missed?
- No... but I have to ask a question...
- Go ahead...
- Is there something or someone you need badly?
- Something or someone I need badly? What does it mean? What’s the meaning of such a question? Why did you ask? ... I don’t know... need someone badly... probably I never experienced such things... someone to wait for... someone to consider more important than myself, someone to hag, to build life together...
- ... someone to let go... I’ll ask just another question... are you worried about life to come?
- Worried? Not really... nothing to worry about, but I’m worried that I couldn’t even find anything not only to worry about, but also to live for... I’m worried about the emptiness of my life to come... to find a job, to make money, probably such things will succeed, will arrive... but I don’t think I’ll be very happy because of such things... I need something else... What do you think? Will I ever be happy?
- I think yes...
- As usually you’re saving words... isn’t it?
- Not saving but selecting...
- Then you aren’t completely sincere...
- No... I’m not pretending or lying... I would never deceive you or keep the truth hidden from you for my own advantage...
- I know very well that I can take that for granted, but you suppose I’m not able to understand everything ... isn’t it?
- No... I think you have to take your time and my thoughts are no more than mine... and we have to talk about things not about thoughts... I have to keep for myself what I’m uncertain of myself... I have to tell you what I think could really help... You’ll go back to Paris and you’ll find there everything you need, love, friends, job and whatever... that’s your future... you have a future waiting for you, you deserve it... and your future will come soon with everything you need to be happy...
- Really?
- Yeah... I’m sure.
- And will you drop me a line once in a while?
- I promise... I’ll do.
- What time is it?
- Quarter past nine...
- Now I have to go... I have a lot of things to do... I’ll try to call all my friends... perhaps we could go for a pizza...
- Oh ... very well... see you soon... it was a pleasure... bye.

OTTIMISMO
Aprile 2005

- Prudentemente, o almeno abbastanza prudentemente... non lasciare mai che la gente sappia troppo... per evitare critiche acide, sgradevoli, maleducate, crudeli, o semplicemente non necessarie... la gente non è realmente interessata a te ma a chiacchierare su di te, solo per giudicarti, la gente non è interessata, è impicciona, sorridente a ficcanaso... Il loro scopo non è ascoltarti ma etichettarti, classificarti, ed essere etichettati significa essere presi di mira e dovere subire critiche acide, indirizzate specificamente contro di te, non è questione di essere coraggiosi o orgogliosi...
- Ma perché sei così crudele contro la gente? ... Quanti amici potenziali potrei trovare tra la gente?
... e tutti i miei amici... non li ho trovati in mezzo alla gente? La gente non è poi così cattiva come a te piace descriverla... Io sono un ottimista, forse troppo ottimista... ma io credo che senza la gente... la vita sarebbe anche peggiore... noi possiamo anche parlare della gente tra noi, per un po’, potrebbe essere utile, ma la gente vera è molto più interessante... che pensi di quando si avverte il sorriso che qualcuno ti lancia? ... Qualche volta ho avvertito dei sorrisi cos’ fulminanti... e non è stato così male... perché dovrei preoccuparmi di dire quello che penso? ... Penso che non mi farebbero mai del male... che cosa potrebbero guadagnarci da una cosa simile? Penso che la gente sia molto migliore all’estero che qui, in questa vecchia città dove non succede nulla... mai... Quando stavo a Parigi ... Che bella città! Parigi è vita, luce, amore... tutto... Io guardo sempre in avanti, sono proprio uno che vive di aspettative... e io aspetto di tornare a Parigi... la città dei miei sogni... cultura, musica, amore, amici, libertà... che città meravigliosa...
- Vorresti tornare a Parigi subito, adesso?
- No... ho qualcosa da completare, ci andrò piuttosto in Agosto... ed è certo che non tornerò mai a casa... étudiant al Sorbonne, vivre ma liberté sans aucun regret... Ma tu non puoi capire, non è vero?
- Non esattamente... forse potresti anche avere ragione... lo so bene... io credo che la vita sia la tua e tu dovresti, o meglio devi, scegliere qualunque cosa ti piaccia, scegliere di vivere nel modo che vuoi tu, almeno per evitare rimpianti... Non ti dico che dovresti rinviare la tua vita fino ad un’altro tempo... Dio mio!... no!... potrebbe essere una scelta terribile... solo fai attenzione... questo è tutto... Hai i tuoi amici lì... molto bene... gli amici sono amici, ma la gente non è fatta di amici...
- Hai ragione quando mi metti in guardia rispetto alla gente, ma tu lo sai bene c’è qualcosa che mi mette in allarme ogni volta, è la ragione dei sospetti sulla gente che mi sta intorno, ed è anche la ragione dell’amore per i miei amici. Non temere, il mio ottimismo è tenuto a freno dal mio cervello...
- Bene... davvero... penso che tu abbia ragione, e poi tu non sei poi così tanto ottimista quanto ti piace apparire.
Agosto 2006
- Sono così contento di vederti di nuovo a casa... come va?
- Molto bene e tu?
- Abbastanza bene... non mi posso lamentare... ma sei in perfetta forma... E’ l’aria di Parigi, non è vero? Quando ci devi tornare?
- Solo all’inizio di Ottobre... Ho un po’ di tempo da spendere qui... e poi devo tornare... Parigi è una grande città... ma qualche volta quando sto lì, mi sento triste, inadeguato, solo, tradito da tutti... sì, ci sono gli amici... ma forse avevo sognato molto su di loro ma loro non avevano fatto lo stesso... Andiamo a prendere una pizza il sabato pomeriggio, possiamo parlare molto ma di nulla, siamo amici, ma ognuno continua a tirare dritto per la sua strada... quello sta per diventare dottore e parla solo di ospedali e di infermiere, quell’altro sta per diventare ingegnere civile e parla solo di palazzi, di ponti, di tetti, di cemento armato e così via... e io? Di che cosa potrei parlare? Sì, di economia, di borsa, di azioni industriali ecc. ecc., forse pure di musica... ma loro non sono abituati ad ascoltare la mia musica, a loro piace solo la loro musica, e poi che altro? ... Sì, la poesia, le canzoni ecc. ecc. ... ma a loro piacciono altri libri, altre poesie, ognuno va avanti continuando a pensar a se stesso... forse io faccio lo stesso, ma non vorrei mai averlo capito... che cosa significa la parola “amici”? Qual’è la differenza tra gli amici e la gente? Io penso che se c’è qualche differenza non è una grossa differenza. Mi piacerebbe trovare qualche altra cosa... ma che ti devo dire? Niente qui e niente nemmeno lì... Parigi è solo Parigi, non è il paradiso... Ti posso chiedere una cosa?
- Tutto quello che vuoi...
- Perché non mi hai mandato una lettera? ... no... niente lettere, niente chiamate MSM, nemmeno una e-mail... noi eravamo amici, non te lo ricordi?
- No, ti sbagli, non noi eravamo ma noi siamo amici... Ma che avrei dovuto fare? ... Anche tu sapevi che noi siamo amici... tutto qui...
- Bene, giusto... nessuna risposta... ok, colpa mia... non avrei dovuto chiederlo, scusa... Bene... è meglio che provo a cambiare argomento... Che hai fatto per tutto questo tempo?
- Niente di importante... veramente...
- Sì, ma come hai passato il tempo: lavorando? leggendo? viaggiando? Che altro?
- Aspettando... solo aspettando...
- E aspettando che cosa? oh... forse ho capito... mh... almeno non sprechi le parole... e la vita reale?
- Abbastanza bene, niente di cui debba lamentarmi...
- Non sei molto loquace...
- No, ma veramente ho continuato a fare le stesse cose, non vale la pena di parlarne...
- E a che hai pensato?
- Un’altra domanda da evitare...
- Problemi? Qualche cosa che non va bene? Problemi di salute?
- No, veramente niente problemi grossi, solo piccole cose, niente di preoccupante...
- E che altro?
- Sei troppo curioso! Me lo terrò per me! ... E che hai fatto a Parigi? hai studiato molto o che altro?
- No... un’altra domanda da evitare... che bella conversazione...
- Ti posso fare un’altra domanda?
- Certo...
- Sei felice?
- Terribile... felice? ... che strana parola... credo di avere bisogno di qualcos’altro, non è questione di Parigi o di quello che vuoi tu... qualche volta ti senti meglio ma qualche volta ti senti malissimo... Parigi era una bel sogno quando stavo qui, ma tornare qua era un sogno quando stavo a Parigi... sì, studiare, lavorare sodo, libri, ogni cosa aiuta a tenere lontano i cattivi pensieri... ma essere felice è un’altra cosa, non potresti mai essere felice quando sei solo... anche quando hai tanti amici... mi capisci?
- Sì... hai ragione... come sempre, hai ragione... Vorrei farti un’altra domanda ma è troppo privata...
- Su che cosa?
- Sull’amore...
- L’amore... mh... ma credi che esista veramente? ... Io sono molto perplesso... puoi amare te stesso e amare nello stesso tempo un’altra persona? E’ possibile mettere insieme amore e sforzo per costruire un futuro professionale? ... Amore e arte? Amore e musica? Per innamorarsi la tua anima deve essere libera e devi mettere da parte tutti i tuoi progetti e liberarti di te stesso... ma è possibile?
- E’ veramente un grosso problema...
- E tu che ne pensi?
- Io credo che l’amore sia possibile...
- Veramente?
- Sì, veramente... forse non quello che puoi leggere nei romanzi... no, qualcosa di molto più semplice...
- Ma tu devi trovare una persona che possa vivere con te... una persona che voglia vivere con te, l’amore senza vivere insieme non esiste nemmeno...
- Forse... ma io credo che potrebbe esistere lo stesso... chiaramente qualcosa di diverso dal classico modello d’amore, qualcosa di simile al tuo modello d’amore, non a quello generale...
- Ma sarebbe qualcosa di debolissimo, non abbastanza forte da potere funzionare... La probabilità che un amore simile possa realmente esistere è piuttosto debole... Forse se avessi visto una persona per un anno... potrebbe essere amore... l’amore ha bisogno di presenza...
- Probabilmente...
- E tu? Che mi dici quanto all’amore?
- Niente che tu non conosca già...
- Sì... hai ragione... l’amore... che strana parola... forse ho molto da imparare sull’amore... Posso provare veramente qualcosa che è vero amore? O fingerò soltanto di vedere lampi d’amore da qualche parte per sentirmi vivo? Potrei solo fingere di giocare un ruolo che implica qualcosa di simile all’amore, solo per tenermi lontano dalla solitudine e dalla disperazione? ... C’è qualche differenza, dalla parte della persona amata, tra amare e fingere di amare? L’amore non è qualcosa di emozionale, l’amore è un dovere, qualcosa che consiste nell’agire come se tu fossi innamorato... c’è qualche differenza tra amare e agire come se tu fossi innamorato di qualcuno? Io penso che non ci sia proprio nessuna differenza... se amare consiste nel fare qualunque cosa con entusiasmo e partecipazione in modo che qualcuno possa sentirsi amato... agire come se tu fossi innamorato di qualcuno consiste nel fare esattamente le stesse cose per dovere...
- Sì... forse è vero... sono confuso... non so che dire... mi sembra un po’ strano... no, niente di strano... l’amore non è strano... o l’amore è sempre strano ... non lo so... ma è molto difficile sapere che cosa sia l’amore.
- Non so che dire... sono veramente perplesso... forse hai ragione oppure io non posso nemmeno provare qualcosa di simile all’amore... perché sono troppo sprofondato nei miei pensieri... troppo egoista... sto fingendo di poter amare qualcuno ma forse sono troppo lontano da queste cose... ci ho pensato anche da solo... a Parigi... bene... e poi? Che fare dopo? ... le cose stanno così... bene... devo solo accettarle... non posso cambiare nulla.
- Penso che tu possa... almeno qualche cosa... certamente puoi...
- Non capisco... c’è qualcosa che non ho considerato?
- No... ma devo farti una domanda...
- Dimmi...
- C’è qualcosa o qualcuno di cui tu abbia veramente bisogno?
- Qualcosa o qualcuno di cui io abbia veramente bisogno? Ma che significa? Qual’è il significato di una domanda del genere? Perché me lo chiedi? ... non lo so... avere bisogno disperato di qualcuno... probabilmente non ho mai provato cose del genere... qualcuno da aspettare... qualcuno da considerare più importante di me stesso, qualcuno da abbracciare, qualcuno per costruirci una vita insieme...
- ... qualcuno da lasciare andare... Ti farò solo un’altra domanda... sei preoccupato della vita che verrà?
- Preoccupato? Veramente no... non c’è nulla di cui preoccuparsi, ma sono preoccupato del fatto che non solo potrei non trovare qualcosa di cui preoccuparmi, ma nemmeno qualcosa per cui vivere... sono preoccupato del fatto che la mia vita, in prospettiva, è vuota... trovare un lavoro, fare un po’ di quattrini, probabilmente queste cose succederanno, arriveranno, ma io non credo che sarò felice per queste cose... ho bisogno di qualche altra cosa... Che ne pensi? Sarò mai felice?
- Credo di sì...
- Come fai sempre, stai risparmiando le parole... non è così?
- Non risparmiando ma scegliendo...
- Quindi non sei completamente sincero...
- No... non sto fingendo o dicendo bugie... Non ti ingannerei mai e non ti nasconderei mai la verità per mio interesse...
- So molto bene che posso darlo per scontato, ma tu supponi che io non sia capace di capire tutto, non è così?
- No... Penso che debba prenderti il tuo tempo e che i miei pensieri non sono che miei... e noi dobbiamo parlare di cose e non di pensieri... Devo tenere per me quello di cui sono incerto io stesso... ti devo dire quello che penso posa veramente essere utile... Te ne tornerai a Parigi e troverai lì tutto quello di cui hai bisogno, amore, amici, lavoro, qualunque cosa... quello è il tuo futuro... hai un futuro che ti aspetta, te lo meriti... e il tuo futuro arriverà presto, con tutto quello che serve per essere felice...
- Veramente?
- Sì... ne sono sicuro.
- E mi scriverai una riga una volta ogni tanto?
- Lo prometto... lo farò.
- Che ore sono?
- Le nove e un quarto.
- Adesso devo andare... ho una marea di cose da fare... cercherò di chiamare tutti gli amici... forse possiamo andare a prendere una pizza...
- Oh... molto bene... ci vediamo presto... è stato un piacere... ciao.

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Friday, April 27, 2007

English and Italian proverbs


English proverbs.


The early bird catches the worm. L’uccello mattiniero cattura il verme. Said to advise someone that they will gain an advantage if they do something immediately or before anyone else does it.


Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. Non contare le tue galline prima che abbiano rotto l’uovo. Said to emphasize that you cannot depend on something happening before it has happened.

When in Rome do as the Romans. Quando stai a Roma fai come i romani.

You can't have your cake and eat it. Non puoi tenerti la torta e mangiartela. To have or do two things at the same time that are impossible to have or do at the same time. If you want more local services, you can't expect to pay less tax.

To pass the hot potato. Passare la patata bollente. (a hot potato is anything that is controversial)

To walk on eggshells. Camminare sulle uova. (to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone who is sensitive to certain things).

A case of apples and oranges. Una cassetta di mele e arance. If someone compares two situations, to prove a point, but you think it is not a valid comparison because the two situations are different, you say that it is a case of "apples and oranges". For example if a small child says that he should be allowed to smoke because his mother does, the mother could say it is a case of apples and oranges.
To kill two birds with one stone.
Prendere due piccioni con una fava
(to catch two pigeons with a single broad bean). That is, any single action which accomplishes two things instead of just one.


Italian proverbs.


Cogliere qualcuno con le mani nel sacco = Catch someone with his hands in the bag (doing something he wouldn’t have done).
Fare il pesce in barile
= Act as fish in barrel (to pretend you don’t know anything when you know very well).
Fare orecchio da mercante
= To have a merchant ear (to forget easily everything you don’t like).
Fare l’Indiano
= Act like an Indian (to pretend not to understand and not to know).
Fare il farfallone = Act as a big (male) butterfly (to be always available for the women).
Dare a qualcuno filo da torcere
= Give someone thread to twist (give someone problems or very difficult things to do).
Mettere la ciliegina sulla torta
= To put he little cherry on the top of the cake (to perfect to complete).
Avere l’acqua alla gola
= To have the water to the throat (to be in a very bad situation).
Avere le mani bucate
= To have the hands pierced (with big holes). (To waste money).
Avere fegato = To have liver (Be brave, intrepid).
Essere di polso
= To be “of wrist” (in order to guide horses). (Be imperative, rigid, dominant).
In gamba =
On leg (clever, as you have to be).
Un pugno nell’occhio = A fist in the eye (something that sounds very strange and inappropriate).
Dimmi con chi vai e ti diró chi sei = Tell me with whom you go and I will tell you who you are. Like in English: A man is known by the company he keeps; or: Birds of a feather flock together.


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some typical Italian expressions

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texts. If you can do it you have to check my main site in Italian http://xoomer.alice.it/eventually

You could find over there a lot of texts about the couple life. My main site is “ESSERE IN DUE” that means “to be two”. I posted over there 71 short stories about couple life. I chose a simple kind of language, the typical spoken Italian language, very different from the book or classroom language. This kind of language could help you to learn how people usually speak Italian. We use a lot of typical expressions. You use to say “It rains cats and dogs”, we would never say “Piovono cani e gatti” but “Piove a catinelle” (catinella = basin). And now some typical expressions.


Cogliere qualcuno con le mani nel sacco
= Catch someone with his hands in the bag (doing something he wouldn’t have done).


Fare il pesce in barile
= Act as fish in barrel (to pretend you don’t know anything when you know very well).


Fare orecchie da mercante
= To have a merchant ear (to forget easily everything you don’t like).


Fare l’Indiano
= Act like an Indian (to pretend not to understand and not to know).


Fare il farfallone
= Act as a big (male) butterfly (to be always available for the women).


Dare a qualcuno filo da torcere
= Give someone thread to twist (give someone problems or very difficult things to do).


Mettere la ciliegina sulla torta
= To put he little cherry on the top of the cake (to perfect to complete).


Avere l’acqua alla gola
= To have the water to the throat (to be in a very bad situation).


Avere le mani bucate
= To have the hands pierced (with big holes). (To waste money).


Avere fegato
= To have liver (Be brave, intrepid).


Essere di polso
= To be “of wrist” (in order to guide horses). (Be imperative, rigid, dominant).


In gamba
= On leg (clever, as you have to be).


Un pugno nell’occhio
= A fist in the eye (something that sounds very strange and inappropriate).

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

English Italian Forum

Another sample from my English-Italian Forum

in Inglese,

Ho fatto che cosa hai voluto. =I did what you wanted

Che pensi? =What do you think (obviously.. about my avatar)

(Ho parlato corretto?) = Did I say it right?

That is what I was trying to say in Italian, with a lot of mistakes, obviously.

Anyway, ciao for now. Hopefully it won’t be long until I can return.
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Hallo Tom,

I hope you’ll come back soon. Just a little grammatical thing to let you understand exactly the Italian use.

I did what you wanted = (io) ho fatto quello che (tu) hai voluto

In English only a single word: "what"; in Italian two different words: "quello che".

According to the Italian structure. there are two different sentences:

1) ho fatto quello: subject “io”=”I”; object “quello” = “that thing” [dimostrative pronoun used as object of “I did”];

2) che tu hai voluto (relative sentense: subject “tu”=”you”; object “che”=” which” [relative pronoun used like object of “you wanted”]).

You in English use “what” for both functions (object of “I did” and object of “you wanted”), we in Italian use two different pronouns (quello [dimostrative], che [relative]) end if you would translate exactly according to the Italian structure you would translate like this:

io ho fatto quello che tu hai voluto = I did that (thing) which you wanted (terrible English but exacly like Italian structure).
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007

ALTARE DELLA PATRIA


This is the "altare della patria" (“native land altar”) from Venice square, in Rome. On this monument two phrases are written PATRIAE UNITATI – CIVIUM LIBERTATI, that means In Latin) “to the unit of the native land” and “to the freedom of the citizens”. In origin it was the monument to Vittorio Emanuele II, first King of Italy.Where are you, all over the world, Italian art lovers? I have already said these things… I’m becoming boring, I repeat, repeat, always the same thing… I have to change my music in order to get more audience… perhaps it’s pathetic… but I’d want to succeed in finding someone interested in these things. What do Americans or Canadians or Australians think about Italy (art and culture but also common life)? Have you ever been in Italy? Which impression did you bring back? Would you come here a second time?

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Learn Italian friendly


Is there someone interested in studying Italian? Who likes Italy and Italian? It’s much more easy than you can even imagine, you can learn Italian using an English-Italian discussion board or chatting directly with Italian people well skilled in English... practice isn’t as boring as grammar...


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NEVER GET UP STUDYING ITALIAN


Today I got a message on my English-Italian discussion board:


I’m interested in studying Italian but…

1. It takes a lot of time and I don't have a lot of time.

2. It is easy to get tired, discouraged and to give up.

But I have to keep pushing myself, but at the same time I have to pace myself. I have to stay committed, but I have to take a break when I find myself getting too tired.

I am thinking that I should not post here too much, unless I can post something in Italian. When I do this someone can translate it into English. This will be good for three reasons. I will see that you understood what I was trying to say, I will be working towards improving my Italian, and I will be able to help the person who translates it for me, at the same time, with their English. So the next time I post here I will come back with something that I have written in Italian.


And so I answered:


That’s a very good idea... this way we could help each other and I think it would be very useful... Perhaps you got tired because of too much grammar... I think also that you’d better start directly by MSN what is much more interesting and much less boring than reading grammar explications... If you’d like it I’m here...


Something else about using MSN... just some minutes ago you where on the Forum, then your computer was running but I didn’t find you “on line” on my MSN board.... perhaps you did not open the MSN board... You have to remember that when you open your MSN without setting up like “invisible” you can see whether or not your friends are on line and your friends can know the same about you... thanks for reading. Never get discouraged and never give up! You only have to try... and you’ll find out how easy it could be to practice Italian without grammar and directly by chat.


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Monday, April 16, 2007

Learn Italian friendly


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Saturday, April 14, 2007

Spaghetti and mandolin country


How is Italy pictured by people abroad? Does Italy look like spaghetti and mandolin country? How many of you have visited Italy at least once? How many are able to read or write Italian or to understand Italian speakers? How many have Italian friends? How many are interested in Italian culture? And as I can see, people open regularly my websites about learning Italian all over the world... This month I got visits from USA (40%), Korea (18,75%), Portugal (9%), and something else from Argentina, Denmark, Germany, Costa Rica, France and Australia... someone of my readers jumps also my other English websites


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